It makes me sad that I don't have 30 yet. Hurry up, public library system!
Are you going to get 31 and 32 this weekend, too? (31 and 32 are definitely the best part of Skypiea.)
The whole time, all I can do is look at the bird's head (direction) and laugh. Oh, Zoro, it's like you don't remember ANYTHING if it pertains to going the right way.
I cannot BELIEVE I missed that! /headdesk There's even that line where Zoro says something like "And where is your head pointing?", and I still didn't get it. Thank you for pointing that out, since I'm an idiot. ^_^;;
So freaking scary that I'm beginning to wonder if those comments on awfulness are self-reflection.
I have wondered about that as well, but every translation I've seen takes them as a comment on the behavior of the heavenly warriors. I think it's because wa yo (sentence-ending particle combination) is too emphatic to be self-reflective or rueful.
The sheer joy of seeing them all haphazardly converge on the same place.
I have to admit I kind of enjoyed the sheer chaos of the five-way battle, too. It was just so... epic.
Zoro is a kinder friend than he lets on.
Agreed; he's a natural protector, for all his aloofness. I think animals take to him for exactly that reason, though it seems to annoy him more than anything a lot of the time (the way animals follow him around, I mean).
Those are some THICK cloud layers, if they were hiding all this and no one else noticed for 400 years.
Seriously, huh? There's a little diagram in the next volume that shows just how deep the buried ruins go. I guess it's easier for ruins to sink into cloud than it is for layers of earth to build up and cover them (and even so, there are some Mesopotamian ruins whose extent was barely suspected prior to their excavation).
Remind me of the quirk?
He apologizes for everything. Suimasen! (This was mostly erased in the Viz translation.)
I like Wiper a little better from this point on.
Agreed, Wiper definitely becomes more sympathetic as the story develops.
??? You skipped Skypiea? The cover arcs don't appear in the magazine chapters?
Remember, I originally burned through most of this in the anime. It wasn't until around volume 40 of the manga that I realized I was never going to be able to finish watching the anime before Japan, and switched to reading in preference to watching.
At various times over the last year, I have gone back and read one section or another of the manga, in Japanese or in English (at one point I was rooting around in volume 25 to review the Blackbeard and haki stuff, e.g.), but I don't think I've ever read most of the stretch between volumes 30 and 40 before.
(Magazine chapters do contain the cover images, btw, but not the SBS corners.)
To me, both the swordsman and navigator lines read kind of like accusations rather than observations.
In Japanese, it's just a tone of mild surprise/curiosity, but re: "swordsman" and "navigator", fans have noted that all of her terms of address for the Strawhat crew at this point are deliberately distancing -- she never uses any of their names, only honorific titles based on their role or a striking personal characteristic (she calls Usopp "Long-nose-kun"). That is definitely a significant choice.
Just stay dead, Enel.
Oh god, if only.
So…would Enel's plan return the upper yard to earth while it simultaneously destroys Skypiea, or would the upper yard also be destroyed?
I don't get Enel, but I believe his plan is to drop Upper Yard down to sea level while destroying the rest of Skypiea; however, since a drop of 10,000 feet would likely destroy every trace of human habitation on Upper Yard, I don't think it's what the Shandians would want. Enel seems to have some sort of weird belief that Vearth belongs with vearth, but he doesn't care about the ruins themselves except for what he can extract from them.
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Date: 2012-08-29 04:44 pm (UTC)Are you going to get 31 and 32 this weekend, too? (31 and 32 are definitely the best part of Skypiea.)
The whole time, all I can do is look at the bird's head (direction) and laugh. Oh, Zoro, it's like you don't remember ANYTHING if it pertains to going the right way.
I cannot BELIEVE I missed that! /headdesk There's even that line where Zoro says something like "And where is your head pointing?", and I still didn't get it. Thank you for pointing that out, since I'm an idiot. ^_^;;
So freaking scary that I'm beginning to wonder if those comments on awfulness are self-reflection.
I have wondered about that as well, but every translation I've seen takes them as a comment on the behavior of the heavenly warriors. I think it's because wa yo (sentence-ending particle combination) is too emphatic to be self-reflective or rueful.
The sheer joy of seeing them all haphazardly converge on the same place.
I have to admit I kind of enjoyed the sheer chaos of the five-way battle, too. It was just so... epic.
Zoro is a kinder friend than he lets on.
Agreed; he's a natural protector, for all his aloofness. I think animals take to him for exactly that reason, though it seems to annoy him more than anything a lot of the time (the way animals follow him around, I mean).
Those are some THICK cloud layers, if they were hiding all this and no one else noticed for 400 years.
Seriously, huh? There's a little diagram in the next volume that shows just how deep the buried ruins go. I guess it's easier for ruins to sink into cloud than it is for layers of earth to build up and cover them (and even so, there are some Mesopotamian ruins whose extent was barely suspected prior to their excavation).
Remind me of the quirk?
He apologizes for everything. Suimasen! (This was mostly erased in the Viz translation.)
I like Wiper a little better from this point on.
Agreed, Wiper definitely becomes more sympathetic as the story develops.
??? You skipped Skypiea? The cover arcs don't appear in the magazine chapters?
Remember, I originally burned through most of this in the anime. It wasn't until around volume 40 of the manga that I realized I was never going to be able to finish watching the anime before Japan, and switched to reading in preference to watching.
At various times over the last year, I have gone back and read one section or another of the manga, in Japanese or in English (at one point I was rooting around in volume 25 to review the Blackbeard and haki stuff, e.g.), but I don't think I've ever read most of the stretch between volumes 30 and 40 before.
(Magazine chapters do contain the cover images, btw, but not the SBS corners.)
To me, both the swordsman and navigator lines read kind of like accusations rather than observations.
In Japanese, it's just a tone of mild surprise/curiosity, but re: "swordsman" and "navigator", fans have noted that all of her terms of address for the Strawhat crew at this point are deliberately distancing -- she never uses any of their names, only honorific titles based on their role or a striking personal characteristic (she calls Usopp "Long-nose-kun"). That is definitely a significant choice.
Just stay dead, Enel.
Oh god, if only.
So…would Enel's plan return the upper yard to earth while it simultaneously destroys Skypiea, or would the upper yard also be destroyed?
I don't get Enel, but I believe his plan is to drop Upper Yard down to sea level while destroying the rest of Skypiea; however, since a drop of 10,000 feet would likely destroy every trace of human habitation on Upper Yard, I don't think it's what the Shandians would want. Enel seems to have some sort of weird belief that Vearth belongs with vearth, but he doesn't care about the ruins themselves except for what he can extract from them.
Curse you, Oda-sensei.
I say this often, and for so many reasons. ^_^